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Filed Under (General, Musing, Ranting) by Morbid Romantic on 30-05-2007
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Alfee and I woke up today and went to Busch Gardens this morning to get our Fun Passes before the 31st (since that’s the last day that they will be sold). Virginia residents can pay for the price of one ticket (around $54) and get free admission for the entire Spring and Summer season. I can’t wait to ride Griffon. Alfee doesn’t ride roller coasters, so I am going to be all alone when I go on them. I also REALLY want to ride Curse of DarKastle because I haven’t been to Busch Gardens since that ride opened up in 2005 despite living only half an hour drive from the place.
Friday, though, we’re going to take my mother to the Newport News Greek Festival after Alfee gets a hair cut. My mom has never been before, I like to look around the shop stands, and Alfee just wants to eat.
Man, I’m hungry now.
I came home with a list of things to do today but I ended up doing nothing. I got caught up reading about Livejournal’s Strikethrough(gate) 2007. Apparently, some group of self-appointed anti-pedophilia people with a website called Warriors for Innocence has taken it upon themselves to ‘alert’ Livejournal to the presence of such things as incest, pedophilia, rape, and bestiality within the community. Nevermind that people have been genuinely reporting the real deal for years and been ignored. While WfI claims to have only targeted groups with a real life interest in those areas, fandom journals and communities have found themselves targeted. It seems that Livejournal just went through people who had linked interests in certain things like the ones above and purged their journals.
So, what is art and what is just straight porn? I think most writers who delve into the world of adult writing are familiar with the Miller criteria that states obscenity is defined by the following:
(i) whether “the average person, applying contemporary community standards” would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,
(ii) whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law, and
(iii) whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15, 24 (1973).
To make the fandom writing pornographic would mean that it doesn’t meet the Miller standards. If the work doesn’t meet one of the standards, it isn’t ‘offensive’. There have been arguments raging for ages about what is art and what is porn and where the line is drawn. Writing, fanfiction, etc, is art and it’s literature. It has artistic or literary value unless it’s just straight hardcore porn without any plot…
Someone correct me if I’m wrong. My Poli Sci class on the Constitution/Laws was so long ago that I have forgotten enough to make me ashamed of myself.
Back to the point, though…
Which does call into question the genre of PWP within the fanfiction community. I have to admit that I have read some things around the net such as stories posted at adultfanfiction.net that do seem to be posted for the sheer purpose of gratifying desire solely using things like incest, rape, or shota. It’s not a plot device, it IS the plot. It’s the focus, the center.
In many cases, things such as incest, rape, and shota are plot devices. They’re not often something that heroes and good guys partake in, but are rather issues perpetuated by villains. They’re stories of strength. And yes, they are also used as plot devices for eroticism.
But, a few things should be made clear about many of the people who read and write these things.
1.) They are NOT predators who will molest children or rape innocent people.
2.) They are NOT throwing out warning signs.
3.) Many of them are children, young girls and boys who both write and read.
4.) Many of them are adults who may or may not have children themselves. And, as adults, they have no desire to harm children or other people. They realize that the issues that they address in stories are plot devices and plot devices only.
The following is just a small list off of the top of my head of published, respected authors who have committed the same ‘crimes’ as the authors who are being deleted:
- Stephen King- IT (For underage sex scenes)
- Anne Rice- The Vampire Armand/Blood and Gold (Relationship between man/boy)
- Thomas Man- Death in Venice (Attracted by man to boy)
- Anthony Burgess- A Clockwork Orange (Man sleeps with two girls)
(more here)
Should people glamorize harming children? No. Never. And people who do hurt children should be locked away for the rest of their lives. I have no sympathy for molesters or rapers. I am also very happy that communities such as Disgusting Lust and Child Love are gone. Those communities were genuine child love groups.
However, I doubt many of the writers of the works above wrote their stories for the purpose of glamorizing child molestation. The case is the same for many of the targeted communities and individuals. These people are no more a child molester than Stephen King is for having all the boys in the sewers have sex with Beverly. Or Anne Rice is for creating the relationship between Marius and the much, much younger Armand.
The list of deleted sites is growing and growing.
And people are freaking out.
I’ve been seeing this icon pop up all over the place now:

And this:

*Also, read the page for an example of how livejournal has acted with hypocrisy on this whole issue* Also, note that Livejournal has purged their database of sites that they deem negative to the image they want to project, yet they have kept the journal of a man who raped a four month old.

Now, it’s escalated to far more than just a fandom vs. Big Brother debate. Now, people are demanding answers that they are not getting from livejournal/sixapart. Livejournal appears to be blissfully unaware of it all though we all know that they’re not. People are also laughing as they scream and cry over the fact that Livejournal allowed itself to be convinced into mass deletions by a person who is clearly anti-immigration, is a self-proclaimed Redneck, is Conservative, and is also anti-Europe.
Macros abound. New communities are birthed. And Birthed. More icons are made. Anime fans raise their brows. Fandom Lawyers even weight in.
I think that Livejournal DOES have a right to decide what content it will and will not host… no matter how inconsistently they apply their rules. Or how haphazardly. Paying customers should be reimbursed for time not used. There should be an announcement of their TOS change. If people want to host their fiction, they should do it themselves to assure that no one can just decide to up and delete it. Like I said, LJ has a right to delete and purge. Out of respect, LJ does need to give their own side of things.
Ah well.
I took advantage of Livejournal and Moo cards offer for ten free cards.

Livejournal also just sent me a $1 gift certificate…
What the fuck am I supposed to do with a dollar?
Useless.
PS.
Dear God,
I am sorry for laughing at the pictures of Pedobear.
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